Success Stories of Vegas Immersion Students
“Although I completed the Miami Bootcamp, I found the 3 nights [every week] infield with Todd very informative. The pre-brief session to review sticking points and goals / aim of the night infield & then finally a de-brief allowed me to really reflect and improve my learning. Las Vegas is a great platform to learn pick-up / game especially for SNL. I feel there is a different approach required for example; screening, logistics and qualification. I observed this approach with Todd in-field and also Vegas Immersion gave an opportunity to learn of each other with other RSD Alumni students. I find going out 5-6 nights a week allows students to learn of each other and form a mastermind group. Although noticed some students feeling an element of fatigue. I believe Todd suggest 1 date night a week which would overcome this issue. Although bootcamp focuses on a student / instructor of 3 to 1, the Vegas Immersion has clearly more students to benefit from this type of interaction. However, Todd is able to focus his attention on each student and one evening happy to stay up individual de-brief session 5am in the morning.”
Asif United Kingdom December 31, 2015
I came in with high expectations, but still left blown away. The value comes from: (1) seeing physical things demonstrated, (2) hearing the tonality and pace of the delivery, (3) seeing the facial expressions used, and (4) somehow just from having the stuff explained by a live person rather than reading about it makes a huge difference.
I didn’t think it would – I’m the kind of person that NEVER takes courses, cause I figure I can always just buy a book on something and teach myself… the difference between reading an article and seeing it demonstrated – the impact is 10 times stronger and it is processed and BELIEVED at a much deeper level. Just like a pro-golfer will still have a coach, there is always room for improvement, and even one key piece of learning can make a huge difference to your game. Would I recommend it to those who don’t yet have decent game? Yes – even more so! This stuff is insanely effective and valuable…
Bruce W. December 31, 2015
ver the last year or two, some REALLY killer cats have been making names for themselves helping guys learn how to meet women, and I want to really thank and acknowledge them for what they’re doing.
Some of the guys I’ve met and talked to over the last year or so include Tyler and Papa who do workshops all over the world as well. These guys represent the CUTTING EDGE of knowledge when it comes to meeting women, and you can’t go wrong investing your time and money with them.
They are all insightful and damn sharp. One thing I appreciate about ALL of these guys is that they are not only good teachers, but they’re good in the REAL WORLD with REAL WOMEN. These guys I’ve just mentioned are the real deal. They’re direct, to the point, and results-oriented.
It’s exciting to me to see more and more guys stepping up and helping other guys get this area of their lives handled and bringing awesome original ideas and thinking to the game.
A big realization that I’ve had over the last few years is that most guys who are seeking information and wisdom about meeting women are GOOD GUYS. They’re honest, ethical people who want to meet honest, ethical, interesting, attractive women in the long-run.
You will feel happier and more fulfilled when you’re becoming the kind of person you want to be and realizing your own personal potential.
David Deangelo “Double Your Dating” December 31, 2015
I came in with high expectations, but still left blown away. The value comes from: (1) seeing physical things demonstrated, (2) hearing the tonality and pace of the delivery, (3) seeing the facial expressions used, and (4) somehow just from having the stuff explained by a live person rather than reading about it makes a huge difference. I didn’t think it would – I’m the kind of person that NEVER takes courses, cos I figure I can always just buy a book on something and teach myself… the difference between reading a post and seeing it demonstrated – the impact is 10 times stronger and it is processed and BELIEVED at a much deeper level. Just like a pro-golfer will still have a coach, there is always room for improvement, and even one key piece of learning can make a huge difference to your game. Would I recommend it to those who don’t yet have decent game? Yes – even more so! This stuff is insanely effective and valuable…
Bruce W. Los Angeles, CA, USA December 31, 2015
“I now have a solid plan to do when I want to approach women. I am surprised how easy and simple the information is to use and yet how affective it is. Instructors made the information very easy to understand and made me feel like I had support whenever I made mistakes.
I learned a new opener that I can use. I gained experience approaching a variety of different [girls]. Some with moms, guys, and scary girls. I learnt when to be cocky/funny, and when not to.
The program was awesome. It’s given me the system to approach women anywhere, anytime with confidence.”
Nathan W. Miami, FL, USA December 31, 2015
“I’m currently … with the Immersion program and so far it’s been worthwhile. You can pull back to the jacuzzi or pool or grab $5 steak and eggs across the residence. Becoming an official “local” is effortless and you get into all the clubs for free on weekdays and on weekends get on the guest list with the promoters we’ve connected with. We’re going to game at the daytime beach clubs very soon. Los Angeles is about 4 hours away if you want a different experience. I recommend bringing a car if possible.”
Kenny B. December 31, 2015
The true value of this program is seeing it done live. After seeing it done live a few times I truly realized – Hey I could do this. Then I did it in the field with instant feedback from the coaches.
I had listened to a bunch of tapes so I felt like I had a base level of understanding. This workshop went WAY beyond that into exact step by step specifics for every phase of a pick up. I’m in my mid thirties, going bald and have glasses yet the second night of the workshop I had an 8.5 hitting on me after using some of the methods and material I had just learned.
Mike T. San Francisco, CA December 31, 2015
“You have passed on a skill that’s allowed me to be more confident in approaching women. I’ve been able to “sell myself” & appeal to women. Everything I’ve feared before now seems ridiculous. Where were you guys when I was in high school? Your company is here now, & I am so glad that I decided to take your course. I discovered that Real Social Dynamics are a group of guys that started off similarly to me & got so fed up w/ the dynamics of dating that they decided to do something about it. Your work has helped me out in ways I can’t even express. Thank you…thank you…thank you.”
Earl K. Los Angeles, CA, USA December 31, 2015
I’ve come such a long way in my own game. 6 months ago I was feeling nervous as hell when I first approached a 2 women in a club. I hesitated for 5 minutes, then all I did was say “Hi!” and eject.
Guys, JUST THAT was an incredible rush for me. And my wing thought I was the shiznit! I had less than zero game. Nowadays, it’s easy to open sets and have fun getting chicks attracted. I’ve become a lot more social and enjoy life more so than anytime in my past.
So the solution is to get in the field and add a new piece to my game. Guys, this stuff can only be internalized IN THE FIELD. Don’t waste time like I used to do and try to learn everything at home before attempting an approach. Get out and have fun!
Hansel T. Los Angeles, CA December 31, 2015
“Approaching Women No Problem, and I need a few more break the ice lines. After a few more break the ice lines…
I learned how to be more cool way to stand, approach better, speak better, just an overall better idea, how to project and make myself more attractive. All good but need to be more practiced and have to have more backup. Using humor more and learning to cold read more.
I went through previous days and nights, what I did right and wrong. Now, I got more comfortable in my approaches. And I wrote down a more detailed structure of program to practice. Ways to improve my game, etc…”
Mark M. Sydney, NSW, Australia December 31, 2015
In 24 hours I go from a guy who has never done an approach to a guy who has almost completely lost any fear that I used to have. If you were to add up the cost of all the courses I have attended, tapes I have bought, and videos that supposedly would give me confidence with women then it would be in excess of $10,000…
I used to sit and wait for the next ‘fix it’ tape to come out that would once and for all give me the nerve to go up to women and talk to them, but it never came…I wish I’d taken this boot camp years ago.
Peter F. Las Vegas, NV, USA December 31, 2015
“The immersion program was great and Todd is amazing and the best teacher. I learned a tremendous amount and my game as improved no end. Right now i do not want to loose the momentum…”
Matt UK December 31, 2015
If you feel compelled to read the rest of this review, read on… if not I’ll summarize it in one sentence.
Life changing experience.
If your a newbie wondering what the hell this is all about you will get concrete examples, demonstrations, reference points and personal experiences of picking up a girl you would otherwise walk past because (if you are truly honest with yourself) you’re too afraid too approach. What a fucking awesome frame to come from and kudos to you for taking action unlike 90%+ of people. Keep this momentum up, you will get there by taking this bootcamp and continuing with massive action and momentum.
If you are coming from an intermediate level, then this will launch you like a mother fuking Saturn V rocket into space. You will see first hand how the best in the world can do this, congruently and consistently. Your developing skills will be slightly pushed into the correct focus for you that’s congruent to achieve amazing and consistent results.
If you are coming from an advanced level, this is one of those potential final pieces in that elusive puzzle. Your vision, that’s in your head but you haven’t that fully realized or expressed before, will be challenged. This might be scary for you right now, but totally necessary to push you to that next level.
You will be in set with your heart pounding, talking to one of the hottest girls you’ve ever approached, going “can I do this now” and then… As if out of no where a balding ginger acts like the back voice of your brain saying “pull her now. Pick her up and run down the street. She wants you, go right now.” Then he will suggest further experiences to put out there which, out of privacy sake, I will keep quiet.
If you’ve thought about doing this, do it. If you have already have, when was the last time you did it and what was your experience like?
Really keen to hear from others on this and thank you once again, Tyler, Jlaix and the rest of the RSD Crew for a truly mind blowing experience in every sense of the word.
Meteor December 31, 2015
Several things will occur as a result of taking the vegas immersion program with Todd: 1. Your game will double, if not triple or quadruple, 2. You will enjoy amazing comradery amongst the boys and make lots of new friends, and 3. you will definitely be eating a lot of steak eggs (inside joke, lolz). Daily life in the program, for me at least, consisted of waking up at anywhere from 2:00-4:30pm, having just enough time to grab groceries, do laundry, clean the condo, or get a workout in, before training started at 9:00. Sometimes I would wake up and do daygame and have someone film me (I am also mic-ed up), WHICH I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO, AS TODD’S BREAK DOWN AND ANALYSIS OF YOUR GAME IS SO FUCKING VALUABLE YOU CAN’T EVEN IMAGINE. Anyway, training would start at 9 and we would cover a variety of different topics about game, maybe watch Todd or a student’s infield footage, do drills to get us outside our head (game the wall is the best), etc. Then, at 10:00, we’d all hit the clubs, and sarge until about 3-4 am. After the club, we’d all meet at a restaurant inside the Tuscany hotel and debrief over steak and eggs. At this time you could ask Todd any questions about how your night went, and get awesome feedback and advice. He also holds one hour office hours sessions that people can come too. Todd is only there Monday – Wednesday, but most of the guys went out on the weekends as well (as you should, of course).Everyone probably is wondering my results in immersion vs before? Well… I was already fairly advanced when I came into immersion, but the program will did WONDERS for my game. Before, I was getting a new girl about twice a month. In immersion, I fucked about 4-5 new girls every month, half of which were average looking to cute range, and half of which were high quality. I’ve been back in LA for almost 2 months now, and yes, I have definitely lost a little bit of my edge. I mean, duh, it was bound to happen – I am not going out 7 nights a week and practically living in the damn night club anymore lol. While I am not QUITE in my Vegas shape, I am still a MASSIVELY improved from where I was before I went.
WHAT I GOT MOST OUT OF IMMERSION
The main benefit I got out of Vegas Immersion is what I will refer to as an “infallible confidence” around women. Regardless of whether or not I’m in state, I feel 100% deserving and entitled to the hottest girls. If I do something “embarrassing” it really doesn’t affect me, my confident is extremely grounded and I don’t react. Sometimes this is even better actually — to make some little mistakes and calibrate after the fact, it makes you more “real” to the girl.
While I was in the immersion program and going out 6-7 nights a week, things like Tyler’s “six steps” seemed so unnecessary to me. I needed ZERO momentum, just put me in the club with a good wingman and I can sit on my phone checking out instagram for 40 minutes before I finally see a girl I really like, then I could IMMEDIATELY step to her, and be fully “on”. Now, after being back home and only going out 3 or so nights a week and focusing REALLY hard on my business (stressful!), I don’t quite have my “Vegas reflexes” anymore, and I DO need to go through a process of warming up, but not nearly as much. But even still, things like “Open All” seems completely silly to me – why would I approach ugly girls? I couldn’t even game them… My game is crazy juggernaut-like escalation/sexual game with God-like sense of entitlement, I wouldn’t even know what to say to a fattie… Literally all I do is escalate. For ME to get warmed up, I can’t really use fatties, I need about 2-3 approaches on HOT girls before I feel warmed up now. But of course, there are nights where I can barely hook one set all night, and nights where I pull the first girl I talk to, come back to the club, and pull again. My opinion on this may change one day as my game is always evolving (I know Julien would be shitting himself right now), but this is how I feel right now. No fatties for me 😛
PICKUP IS FUN, DAMMIT! REMEMBER THAT SHIT
This is something that is VERY commonly forgotten amongst pickup guys, and I this something I am definitely guilty of myself from time to time. You should NOT feel like you are “bleeding in the trenches” when doing pickup. Sure, you have to push yourself, but it should be fun. SO MAKE IT FUN. Knowing yourself and what you find fun (self amusing) is so key here. For me, I love to “sacrifice the lamb” as Julien calls it, which basically means you just insult girls the first half of the night (lol), then actually try to game them the second half. I can get pretty brutal, in a funny way of course, lol (I am not ACTUALLY being MEAN to anyone, just a little disclaimer, I do it all with a joking vibe…).. You can even do silly things to start having fun that aren’t even pick up related. One night at Marquee, my wing and had these empty water cups, and we were asking everybody who walked by if they could take it and throw it out for us. People gave us crazy looks, called us assholes, one guy even stared me down for a hot second like he wanted to fight me (then he noticed my wing who is a 6’3″ 255lbs. MMA fighter – he reconsidered). Another thing I like to do, is that if a set is going badly because the girl is just being a cunt, I like to REALLLLYYY burn it down the ground HARD (depending on my mood, but I do it from a place of self-amusement/humor, NOT butt hurt and vengeful). Sometimes I like to dance to get into state. Whatever I feel would be fun at the time, I do this in field. Remember to make it fun. If you’re not having fun, you ain’t gonna pull. It’s your job to learn about yourself, and how YOU can make pickup fun.
GETTING SURPISED/PISSED OFF WHEN GIRLS ACT BATSHIT INSANE
This was a HUGE sticking point of mine for pretty much my first 4 years in the game, and one of the biggest I see in new guys. A LOT of guys in immersion program struggle with this. You gotta just accept that AS SURE AS THE SKY IS BLUE, GIRLS WILL DO THINGS THAT ARE JUST BATSHIT INSANE AND MAKE ZERO FUCKING SENSE, PERIOD. They are not like guys. They are not logical. They follow whatever emotion they feel in the moment, and especially with alcohol involved, their emotions can swing from left to right like a pendulum on a clock.
You can be totally on with a girl, about to put your dick in, and give her the SLIGHTEST little tease and she can FLIP THE FUCK OUT and leave. Or, you can be totally on with a girl, have deep rapport with her, super strong emotional and sexual chemistry for two hours in the club – but then, out of nowehere, her fat-ass friend can come and RIP HER AWAY FROM YOU. You call/text her the next day, NO REPLY. So many things can happen… You will find girls who will be on your dick all night, going great, make out, then you split off and do your own thing for a while, see her later on in the night, and have her IGNORE YOU and act like SHE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW YOU. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. JUST ACCEPT THIS AND MOVE ON. Bullshit like this DOES NOT SURPRISE ME AND HAS A VERY MINIMAL EFFECT ON MY STATE. If I experience anything less than a girl telling me she’s actually not a human girl but a dinosaur in disguise, then she takes her mask off and whoa! She is actually a dinosaur underneath… Aside from THAT… NOTHING will surprise me anymore. I’m 7 years DEEP into the game, and I can finally say I’m over it. If I get the girl, my state increases SLIGHTLY, then goes back down to normal. If I lose the girl to some bullshit, my state goes down SLIGHTLY, then goes back up to normal.
Also, avoid any mysogonist thoughts… Girls will cut the line, not pay cover, get invited to the tables, get sex whenever they want, offered cools jobs, guys will worship them, yacht parties, free vacations, etc. – GET OVER IT. THEY WILL TURN 35, trust me.
Before I start – the number one rule of text game is that you don’t have to text at all! You can just fucking call her if you want. Try texting her something like “omg… the craziest thing just happened to me, can you call me real quick?!” And just talk to her on the phone. Or just call her out of the blue, I get a 60% answer rate on this, but that’s just me. So, don’t forget that sometimes it’s better to just fucking call her. Now, let’s get into it….
I used to be one of those guys that thought that there wasn’t a whole lot you could do over text – either she liked you in person or she didn’t, and that was that. I have since eaten my words. Now I still haven’t seen any miracles happen via text, but it can be used a tool to generate quite a bit of attraction, and also (imo more importantly), comfort. By the same token though, I’ve seen friends of mine run HORRIBLE sets but still get the number, and the girl gives them late, one word replies over text, and imo… They put WAY too much effort trying to flip it over text… IMO, if you ran a set that was not GREAT but just OKAY, you can maybe spice things up via text… But if you ran a shitty set, sometimes they will still text back (who knows why – boredom? validation?), and you will waste a lot of effort for nothing, and ultimately end up blaming your “text game” for not being able to get her out, when in fact it’s just your ACTUAL, IN-PERSON game that sucks 😛
The initial text I seem to have the best results with are light statements that do NOT ask anything of the girl, and refer to something about our interaction together, like an inside joke. This is by far the best opening text imo – to remind her of something fun that occurred between the two of you. Also, a good first text is to send a picture of the two you together (obviously you have to take one, so don’t be shy!) with the text “Beyonce and Jay-Z better watch out, we got a new couple of the year 2014!”. Other examples of good first texts I’ve used:
-Ahhh I miss staring into your adorable anime-character eyes!
-So glad I was able to convince you to give me an eskimo kiss last night, can’t believe you didn’t know what it was!
-Hey u 😉 so I hope your manager didn’t notice me getting your number today… Don’t wanna get you fired!
I’m not claiming these to be the most spectacular texts ever… But they meet a certain set of criteria: 1. they are statements, not questions; 2. they are short, light, flirty; 3. it refers to something either about myself, her, or the both of us, and recalls to the interaction we had together. And 4….. I ran a REALLY good set in person first!! 😛
The reason for sending something light is to evoke a response. You can also “bait” the girl with things like “Hey… you won’t believe what just happened to me..” or “Hey , can I ask you something serious? Be honest plz..” These are likely to get a response. If she won’t reply to one of these; it’s probably over. (Credit David Bond for helping me with my text game here)
Once she replies to the first text, I quickly transition from a few more light/funny/flirty texts into more deep rapport building questions. It’s good to send lots of pictures, either of yourself, or random funny things (memes are great). Anything you can to put a smile on her face and spike her emotions. Also, a lot of guys wait long periods of time, pondering the “perfect text” or simply “making her wait” – THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE IMO!! Hot girls are often times very busy. If you’re getting a lot of responses from the girl, she may only have a brief 45 minute window before she has to start putting her makeup on and get ready for work. So, if you’re Mr. Cool Guy, waiting 15 minutes between each response, that’s 3 texts back and forth. But if you’re both responding quicky, more like you would do on an instant messenger like Facebook, maybe you can get 50-100 texts in that same 45 min window. That’s gonna build a LOT more comfort in that same window. So reply quickly!
But don’t get addicted to text. The ultimate goal is to SCHEDULE THE MEET UP. You are not her gay texting buddy. When you feel like enough comfort has been built, go for the meet up, but be sure to SOFT CLOSE FIRST. This decreases flaking dramatically. A soft close is something like “You are so adorable, we should definitely meet up for a drink sometime!” vs. a hard close like “Let’s meet at the bar between XS and Surrender at the Encore hotel at 8:30 pm this Tuesday”. Use a soft close first, then start asking about her schedule. Find out when the both of you are free, and… also, very important – a rule I got from Todd that both he and I feel very strongly about, NEVER TAKE A DAY 2 WHERE THE LOGISTICS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE TO ISOLATION/SEX. Meet at or near her place or yours, no “halfway” meeting spots.
Plowing is such an important part of pimping it’s ridiculous. VERY few girls who are 8+ are gonna respond overtly favorably off the open. Certain 6’s and 7’s, however, will
It’s the 6’s and 7’s who usually give you the shit tests, which are better actually. If you are getting shit tests, just pass the shit tests with POSITIVITY AND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF EFFORT POSSIBLE. This is the key to being un-reactive – “Never write what you can speak, never speak what you can nod, never nod what you can wink” applies here (learned this from Todd). NEVER GET INTO THE YOU VS. HER FRAME. DO NOT RESPOND TO A SHIT TEST BY GIVING ONE OF YOUR OWN! Even if you can be way wittier and funnier than her, it’s still reactive, and although you can build a fuck ton of value, but you completely neglect comfort. (Fucking the girl = value + comfort).
Anyway, back to the SUPER HOTTIES – the 8’s and higher. They TYPICALLY don’t give a whole lot of shit tests, what they do is worse – they give you what Todd calls “the hot girl blasé”. This means they go quiet and barely respond or show you any acknowledgment at all. For this, we used a drill called “GAMING THE WALL”. With this exercise, you do just what it describes – you literally stare at the wall, and try to game the wall which, obviously, does not reply or show you any acknowledgement, much like a hot girl. I’ve had several hot girls tell me they did NOT like me at first, then after I “gamed the wall”, (aka self amusement), starting getting attracted. This was my biggest sticking point coming into immersion, and I’m happy to say it’s been CRUSHED!! 😛
Also, plowing is very important for STOPPING the girl. In the top clubs in LA, such as Supplerclub, you literally can only get to the girls (who are for the most part all model level hot) on their way to and from the VIP tables. And sometimes they move in big groups. Plowing is essential for stopping them. You’ve got to just KEEP TALKING and plowing with positivity until you get a good reaction, because her reflex is gonna be to blow you off. A dirty little trick I use for this is grabbing the girl and saying “HEY YOU LOST AN EARRING” and when she looks down, I say “Nah, jk, just thought you were cute” and make strong eye contact. This 5 second sound bite is enough to separate you from the typical drunk, creepy chode with no game. The key is just bypass her initial reflex to blow you off. Oh, and for God sakes – when stopping moving sets, ALWAYS STOP THE LEAD GIRL. Even if she is the fattie and your target is the hot one in the back, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, STOP THE LEAD GIRL. If you don’t the leader will just keep walking, and since they’re all linked up, drag her away.
MAKING THE GIRL CHASE YOU
So even before I came to Immersion, I was had pretty tight game. But I felt a big sticking point that I had was that I was always the one chasing the girl, and it was never the other way around. At Summit, Julian showed some amazing infield of how he got girls chasing him by using POWERFUL pushes and teases – well, actually, downright insulting the girls (DOG! lol). I tried this and failed MISERABLY over Summit, but with Todd’s (and Ryan’s) help, I was able to figure it out in Vegas Immersion: They key was, you NEED VALUE FIRST.
The best method I’ve found for getting girls to chase you is hook them first via “legitimate means” – i.e. charisma, humor, dominant sub-communications like strong vocal tonality and eye contact, passing her shit tests, positivity, humor, plowing, unreactiveness, etc. If you do these things well, you will usually reach the hook point, and it’s pretty easy to tell when you’re there. The tell-tale signs are anime eyes, her hanging on every word you say, her using trying for rapport tonality, laughing at your jokes regardless of whether or not their funny, and my favorite: The drunk girl-close talk. Tipsy girls will close talk your face when they’re hooked because they want you to kiss them. It’s at this point you can start initiating the pushes/teases, and you can go as harsh or gentle as you want. When the drunk girl starts close talking me, I might say something like “Don’t you even think about trying to kiss me…” You ought to see the look on their faces ;). You can really find anything to disqualify or tease them on, and if you’ve properly hooked the girl via “legitimate means” first, they will usually start desperately chasing your validation again. Don’t give it back to them fully – because ultimately, they’re earn it back the only way a hot girl knows how – by fucking you!! Don’t be too paranoid about holding the frame though, if you push too hard and she gets offended, it’s definitely okay to apologize or say you were just kidding. You don’t want her to run off, obviously, lol. Don’t be that weird pick up guy holding onto the frame for his ego while losing the girl in the process.
THIS VIDEO THAT TODD PUT OUT IS GOLD AND PERFECTLY DESCRIBES HOW I WAS BEFORE: “GOING OUT A LOT, PRETTY COOL CAN COMMUNICATE, MILLION DOLLAR MOUTH PIECE, NOT TOO REACTIVE, NOT TOO MUCH IN MY HEAD, SHOW INTENT, COMMUNICATE MAN TO WOMAN — BUT I WAS ALWAYS CHASING, THE GIRL WAS ALWAYS RESISTING, AND I WAS ONLY GETTING THE GIRLS ‘HERE AND THERE’ WHEN THEY THOUGHT I WAS COOL AND THEY WERE HORNY, BUT NOT GETTING THEM TO CHASE”. I LITERALLY THINK TODD TAILOR-MADE THIS VIDEO FOR THE OLD ME!!
PULLING LOGISTICSIf you are not getting laid as much as you want to be, it’s because you aren’t going for the pull enough, period. ALWAYS BE SEEDING THE PULL. The moment you sense she’s hooked pretty hard, try to pull her. Don’t wait until the venue closes or “the right opportunity”. Just go for it, and calibrate after the fact. Seriously, I can think of so many times back in the early days where I had a DTF girl but waited too long for the pull, and logistics got fucked up. Go for the pull the SECOND you get an ounce of compliance. The worst case is she just says no, and you just continue gaming.
LMR begins in venue, not in the bedroom. Screening has been covered very well in multiple videos by all the instructors especially Brad and Julien. Asking questions like “who are you here with? What are you doing later? Where are you from?” etc. are all key. But in my mind, I look for three things when determining whether or not to pull:
1. Hottness of the girl (how hot the girl is)
2. DTF-O-Meter (how down to fuck does she seem? Is she drunk and aggressively making out, or sober and conservative?)
3. Logistics of the girl (Is she there with two friends that love you and approve of you hooking up with their friend, or does she have 5 monster fat cock blocks that she also has to be the designated driver for?)
Ideal situation where girl satisfies all three is girl who is extremely hot (hotness of girl), drunk and horny and aggressively making out/grabbing your dick in the club (DTF-O-Meter), and at the club by herself (Logistics). Worst possible scenario would be ugly fat chick (hotness of girl), who is sober and won’t allow even mild kino (DTF-O-METER), and the designated driver of a bachelorette party of 9 drunk girls who all need to make it home safely (logistics of girl). Those are the two extremes, usually if 2 of the 3 are pretty good, and the third one isn’t too too bad, I’ll go for it. If the girl is really hot but she’s extremely conservative, sober, and has too many protective friends, I might just take the number and try to close on the day 2. However, rules are not rules. I had one girl out here in vegas that literally only satisfied ONE of the criteria (hotness of the girl). The other two were shit – DTF-O-Meter was really, really low, she wouldn’t kiss me in the club, would not allow me to isolate her from friends, not down for too much kino, AND logistics were bad too – she was at the club with her fucking STEP MOM and AUNT and ROOMATE. All of which were VERY protective of her. But I still got the lay, despite not going for the most intelligent pull necessarily (rules are made to be broken)…. Basically what I did was I won the approval of the whole group, said I just wanted to take her to a nice restaurant and not even to my place, and baby-stepped it from there until I finally, FINALLY fucked her after some of the worst LMR in the history of mankind (at one point she said she wanted the D, then changed her mind as I went for the condom – ugh, how frustrating is that?!). I went for this just to see if it was possible, given a very low DTF-O-METER and terrible logistics, and because I was hanging out with manwhore earlier that day and he told me that just cus a girl won’t kiss you in the club doesn’t mean that once you get her alone she won’t become a nasty whore – and low and behold, he was right. HOWEVER, this doesn’t change the fact that a low DTF-O-Meter and bad logistics are still FAR, FAR from IDEAL. You still want to get the makeout if you can to test the DTF-O-Meter, and you still want to screen for good logistics!! Just don’t be BOUND to it, and sometimes, go for the glory, even if all you have of the 3 is “hotness of the girl” 😉
When going for the pull, the most important concept to keep in mind is BABY STEPPING THAT SHIT. In Vegas Immersion, a common one I used was take her to the lobby first, “because the music is so loud I can barely here you ” and remind her that we have stamps, so we can cut the line and come right back in whenever. Then from there, eventually lead her to the car, get her home, in bed, smash. You can even use a restaurant as an intermediary, but I really don’t recommend it – it’s often (not always!) a waste of time. I don’t really waste my time on the food pull anymore. I may make an exception for an 8+, in general though, either I will take her straight home or not at all. But yeah… Baby step that shit, be as creative as you can at handling her objections – make shit happen. Sometimes you can get laid just because she’s bored, horny, and you handled all her objections, for instance: “It’s 12:30, I live 5 minutes away, I have you back here inside the club within an hour before the club closes and your friends won’t notice, I’m sober, I can drive, my car is close, etc.” What can she object to at that point? 😉
**VERY IMPORTANT** THE ODDS OF A GIRL’S WILL POWER BEING ABLE TO SAY NO TO SEX WHEN SHE’S IN ISOLATION WITH A COOL GUY WHO KNOWS HOW TO MAKE HER WET IS VERY, VERY SLIM. No matter what barriers you have to overcome to get her there – if you can get her there, and you know how to make girls wet, 9 out of 10 girls will not have the will power to say no. This is assuming you’ve had a girlfriend before or a lot of fuck buddies, and you know how to kiss properly, biting/sucking on neck properly, ears, tits, back, back of the neck, hair pulling, dominance, confidence, leading, etc. If you don’t, just date any fatty that will have you, stick with her and practice for a little while, until you learn….
I also wrote a longer post about LRM here: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/226097/forum I wrote this about a year and half ago, but it’s still really good stuff and my method is more or less the same.
RYAN’S CONVERSTAIONAL STURCTURE
THIS SHIT IS GOLD: There are basically five possible categories of conversational topics you can use to talk to a girl in night club: You question (asking her questions such as where are you from? where do you work?), You statement (You look like you’re from LA, you look like you could be a college student), I (talking about yourself – I use to be a fat kid growing up), we (we would make such a cute couple, everyone would be jealous of us), and random bullshit (do you think Obama-care is a good idea?). The best ones are You statement, I, and we. These are the most interesting and the most likely to spark an emotion connection, as well as the least boring. However, don’t be paranoid about falling into you question or random bullshit. Let the conversation go naturally and don’t get too inside your head about it, but do keep in mind that asking a lot of questions right off the open is MAJOR NO-NO, that is called value-sucking, as opposed to GIVING value. You give value by thinking of cool shit to say, you suck value by interviewing her, asking a lot of questions, and putting the burden of the conversation on her (which you could do later, but probably not a good idea right off the bat).
Blindly doing cold approach will start to auto correct any sticking points you have. However, developing a conscious understanding of them will help you achieve massively quicker results. This is why having Todd was so helpful to pick apart sticking points quickly. At the end of each night, you want to be thinking or even better, writing down, 3 good sets and 3 bad sets, and why they went well or didn’t. Also, write down sticking points and SPECIFIC DRILLS you can use to demolish them. For example, I had a sticking point of having much better game on the 6-7’s only because these girls would often open up very favorably, where as the hotter ones wouldn’t, and I was ejecting too early. So, I did a drill where for a few nights, at the beginning, I would open excessively, and if the girl gave me a very favorable response, I would bail out INTENTIONALLY. I was on a mission for girls who did not open well, just so I could practice plowing. Some of your sticking points may be obvious (failure to lead, approach anxiety still, afraid of mixed sets with big guys,etc.) but some you are probably not aware of, and it’s important to have good, experienced wings. For example, I would bet a million dollars that 99% of you reading this right now who think you have good vocal tonality and good projection are STILL too quiet and still using trying for rapport. Which brings me to my next point, which is….
Record yourself. Period. Just do that shit by any means necessary. I recommend www.pivothead.com and www.lawmate.com. Or you can use an expensive sony camcorder. Mics are cheap. You will discover and plow through your sticking points super fast. From watching myself on film, I noticed I was plowing excessively and not letting the girl talk, going from one witty joke to the next, and never giving her a chance to talk which made it impossible to form an emotional connection and qualify her. Also, I still speak too quickly, and on occasion, a little bit of trying for rapport sneaks by. But recording myself has made a world of difference. Goddamn… vocal tonality is soooo important. Sorry, just had to bring that up yet again 😉
As has been stated ad nauseum, vocal tonality, projection and eye contact are like 75% of this entire game. I would wager that 90% of you guys who get sick of hearing about this still aren’t doing this well enough. You need to come to them like you’re a fucking cop who pulled them over for doing 50 mph in the 15 mph school safety zone. Only positive at the same time… What Brad calls “positive dominance”. VERY dominant and authoritative, yet positive at the same time. I think Owen and Brad have vids on YouTube about this…
As the years go by, your style of pick up changes. Lately, my game consists of GOD-LIKE LEVEL ENTITLEMENT talking to girls as if they have a GOLDEN opportunity to MAYBE be hot and cool enough to get LET INTO MY WORLD. I don’t communicate this overtly of course, it’s all in the vibe I put out. And it FUCKING WORKS.
Entitlement really is everything. Own said it best a video he put out about 2-3 months ago. He said: “WHAT IS A HOT GUY? A HOT GUY IS A GUY WHO ACTS ENTITLED”. As you get more references for pulling more and hotter girls, slowly your entitlement begins to shoot through the roof, and that’s when things get crazy. I really saw the power of cocky, arrogant, God-like level of entitlement firsthand until I met this kid at Immersion we’ll call “D” for short. Now… right from the get go, I knew there something up with this kid. He walks, talks, and acts like he’s the prince amongst his loyal subjects. This kid doesn’t even have very good game, but his results are AMAZING. He pulls STUNNERS. For some reason, he’s the most entitled little brat I’ve ever met, and girl dig him for it!!
It’s hard to explain this as it’s a vibe you give off, tough to pin point exactly how to do it. Manwhore posted a video on the topic of handling a girl’s cock block friends where he said to, rather than befriend them as is community dogma, treat with a sort of “arrogant aloofness”, and I think this is a very good description of entitlement. If you treat a mega hottie who is acting like a total bitch this way, she will buy into your frame, and you will get attraction. “D” from immersion has terrible game, just good looking (yes looks matter, SORRY), inflated sense of entitlement, and an extremely solid frame.
I personally can’t go into too much depth as I’m not really qualified to explain it, but definitely check out Brad and Owen’s material on this. Again, “A Hot Guy is an Entitled Guy” – Owen
Also, the legendary Derrick’s game is all entitlement based. Derek, for those of you who don’t know, is a guy who originally took a bootcamp with Todd and quickly rose to instructor level, and is now good friends with all the RSD boys. He has no problem putting 10’s in their place and controlling the frame on them like HE IS THE PRIZE, NOT THEM. He put out an AMAZING RSD Mastermind CD I listed to once; you should try and track that down and give it a listen, it’s fucking pure gold! DEREK IS WELL KNOWN TO BE AN ABSOLUTE FUCKING MONSTER.
Ah, shit tests. One of the most loved and hated parts of the game. Loved, because it usually (NOT ALWAYS) means there is some level of attraction, and hated, because most guys REACT to them and thus they FAIL. The ONLY WAY TO NOT PASS A SHIT TEST IS IF THE GIRL CAN TELL IT AFFECTED YOUR STATE; IF YOU REACTED TO IT EMOTIONALLY. DO NOT REACT (this doesn’t mean you go mute and don’t say anything btw lol).
One thing that really helped my game out there was the concept that Todd taught me of passing shit tests with POSITIVITY AND LEAST AMOUNT OF EFFORT POSSIBLE. This is to avoid the hellish “YOU VS. HER” frame where the two of you are just arguing and insulting each other back and forth – sure it’s with a flirty undertone, but playful teasing can quickly turn into arguing. Plus, drunk, insecure bitches can freak out when you think things are going well. It can build a bit of attraction to be “cooler than her” and wittier than her in the you vs. her frame, but it sacrifices a lot of comfort, and you need both. Plus if she’s funnier you’re fucked lol (not really though).
As far as how to pass shit tests specifically…. Well, there is tons of great content on this already out there, but the main ones are: 1. Exaggerate and agree, 2. Do not acknowledge, 3. Change subject, 4. Just nod and show no reaction.
APPROACHING WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE SHIT
FEELING LIKE SHIT IS A REASON TO GO OUT, NOT TO STAY IN!!! Remember the #1 rule — pickup is FUN, not a CHORE. Go out with zero expectations and zero outcome. Make going to the club and doing one approach your criteria for success. I can’t tell you many nights I felt like fucking death but I went out anyway and ended up pulling. The key is to NOT RESIST IT. WHATEVER YOU RESIST WILL PERSIST. Be okay with it. Fuck around. Throw ice at girls like your RSD Brad or something lol. If you make having fun your goal and not trying to pick up the girls up, you have a very good chance of getting into state.
Some clubs are good for pickup and some aren’t. Some clubs that are filled with stunners are terrible for pickup. I’ve been to clubs where every single hot girl is at VIP table, they go there and never leave all night, the music is so loud it makes your ears bleed, there’s literally nowhere to stand, etc. It looks deceiving because in the wide shots, there’s dime pieces everywhere – but in reality, you can’t get to them, and they couldn’t hear you even if you could. Just avoid these places and find good venues where there some kind of compromise. USUALLY, the loudest, hottest clubs have the best girls, and nice quiet venues have fucking 6’s at best, but there are some exceptions, and these are the venues you want to seek out.
SEE WHAT STICKS METHOD
This is something that Tyler mentioned briefly in one of his videos, can’t remember which one. Maybe there is one out there where he goes into more depth, I’m not sure. But the main idea behind the “see what sticks method” is to roll in, and start throwing shit at the girl – show some intent, try a light neg, some pus- pull, a genuine compliment, say some really funny off the wall shit, try some vulgar humor, show unreactiveness to her shit tests, be really dominant with her, be really chill and let her chase you, etc., and, using your calibration, SEE WHAT WORKS. Different girls will respond to different things. Once you see what her emotional triggers are you, hone in on those. I can remember a few instances where I came in SUPER DOMINANT, the girl was IMMEDIATELY HOOKED with anime eyes, so I kept going with it until I was choking her and fucking her up the ass just a few hours later. I’ve also had times where I gave a girl a really hard push, and she chased, so I made her chase even more until the only way she could her validation back was to fuck me. And, I’ve also gone in super sweet and gentle, and the girl happened liked that, and we just cherished each other all night. Play around with different styles and techniques until something hits.
HOW TO FUCK GIRLS
Won’t go into tooooo much detail here, but from having quite a bit of sexual encounters with a lot of different girls lately, I’ll jot down a few bullet points for ya:
-most girls like to be dominated and fucked aggressively by alpha males. Choke her, spank her, pull her. Fuck HARD.
–Strive to be in the moment and unapologetically do what you want; do what turns you on, and the girl will get turned on too. DO NOT BE PERMISSION SEEKING.
-The easiest position for most girls to cum in them on top, followed by doggy or missionary with her knees touching her shoulders.
-always use condoms and take breaks to reapply lube. Latex can dry out even the wettest of Latina girls.
-Don’t be afraid to ask for a blowjob, and give her instructions on how you like it.
-If you fuck well, girls will usually come back for more, as most guys are pretty passive (and thus terrible) in bed.
-If you’re nervous, or inside your head, your dick won’t work. It’s okay, happens to all of us from time to time.
-Healthy diet (paleo + lots of greens like kale) helps penile health, as well as anything you can do for testosterone, like lifting heavy weights and taking certain supplements. Avoid drugs.
Brad call this his “happy chi”, I call it the “The Glow”. The glow basically means you are in state, but it’s a specific kind of state, as there are many different kinds of state. You can be in an aggressive, dominant kind of “state”, or you can also be in a different kind of state where you’re super million dollar mouth piece man, you can even be Mr. hilarious witty guy, and, of course, you can have “The Glow”. What “The Glow” means is you are in a super relaxed, pure value-giving, pure-positivity, pure-non-neediness, zero outcome dependant state, and you don’t want or need anything from the girl, you are just fully at peace with yourself and the world, with no need or desire for her validation and 100% present to the moment. Meditating regularly can help you achieve this state. “The Glow” is, imo, the best kind of “state” you can be in terms of pick up, and life, really. You can go up to girls and “just be a chode” and tell them they’re beautiful and it will work if you have the glow. People will magnetically be drawn to you. It’s extremely similar to being drunk and on molly. You should strive to achieve this state when you’re out as much as possible.
FUCKING MEDIDATE FAGGOT. FUCKING DO THAT SHIT. NOW.
Phew, that was a lot to type up and it’s just about 7000 words exactly. I don’t expect most of you to take the time to read it all, but that’s fine. Scroll through the bolded sentences and you can get a fair grasp for most of the concepts. I wrote this for you guys but also for myself, so I can refer back to it for my own needs.
Hope you enjoyed, and if you in ANY WAY think it’s possible to make it out to the Vegas immersion program – even if you have to sell you first born child – FUCKING DO THAT SHIT. Your penis will thank you 😉 !!
RedBeard from RSD NationIt’s now 20 days that I am in immersion, I arrived here as a total newbie in pick up and the progress I have made in that short periods of time are tremendous.The immersion program is one of the best investment I have made so far and as life changing as a Tony Robbins seminar.
My coach push me to approach more woman the first night out that I did in all my 28 years of life before.The approach of my coach was perfect to me, giving me just as much as I needed to work on and improve without overwhelming with abstract theory.The programme also gave me the opportunity to be filmed and recorded in day game and the knowledge I got from Todd himself breaking down the footage is priceless.RSD instructor Todd is always willing to help student to improve their game on the best of his abilities and knowledge which is goldmine in pick up.The immersion program is not only the best place to be in order to learn how to interact with woman but also the place to connect with the coolest people.Guys that I met here are cool, smart and willing to let their ego down in order to become their best selves.Bringing the guys together around BBQ, bowling or other activities is a killer idea not only for the quality of the new friendship starting here but also for the impact on the field through wingman ship.I would recommend to keep going with that kind of events.The quality of training with Todd and the other coach in term of pick up is excellent.The extra classes like improv and comedy are also very useful especially as an introvert to push my self to go and talk to stranger and have something to say out of the blue.For being picky and trying to make this experience even better, I would say that some classes about health & fitness could be incorporate as well as fashion & style and general goals and direction in life.I believe that immersion is not just about learning a bunch of technique but about growing up, thriving and building a balanced and healthy life.
About the general knowledge in terms of pick up there’s a lot of material out there even too much that it probably would be interesting to have an immersion manual with theory about the different phases in pick up and related fields that would educate student on their path to learn those skills and build their more fulfilled identity.
These are some ideas to take take that program to the next level even though the quality of the program is already outstanding regarding its small cost .
W.G. Las Vegas, NV December 31, 2015